How do I meditate into a state of complete “relaxness”?
Aug.10, 2007 in
Meditation questions
Sandra H asked:
Everytime I meditate, it seems my mind seems to float of concentrartion. I’d be meditating and then I could be thinking about elephants or demons. How do I meditate so that I am completley relax and I can astral project?
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Everytime I meditate, it seems my mind seems to float of concentrartion. I’d be meditating and then I could be thinking about elephants or demons. How do I meditate so that I am completley relax and I can astral project?
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August 11th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
You can only find total peace and relaxation in the Holy spirit through faith in Christ. Total abandon yourself into the armes of God the Father, Jesus the son and the Holy Spirit and total peace and relaxation will come.
August 12th, 2007 at 5:18 am
the goal of meditation is to grounded within yourself so astral projection is kind of counter productive to meditation…. how ever if you really want the relaxing benefits of meditation… sit in the middle of a garden or forest and hear the sounds of nature around you…keep your focus there… the cheap way is buy yourself a CD/tape of the sounds of nature(wind rustling the trees, rain, sounds of birds, river running) and do it in your home…. since your eyes are closed it doesn’t make a huge difference
August 14th, 2007 at 6:05 pm
1) Astral projection comes as a natural consequence of being relaxed.
2) If you think of astral projection you are not relaxed.
3) Relaxation should be of both mind and body
4) To imagine anything, including mountains, oceans, nature, is still imagination and an activity of the mind. Abandon them!
5) The mind has a natural tendency to waver. Our senses - ears, eyes, sensation, odor, taste all stimulte the mind and in that situation, it can never become fully silent! Any external stimuli will make it wander.
6) There are many techniques that help the mind not wander. Please email me if you are sincerely interested and I can reveal some secrets! But shortly, the goal is not to control or focus the mind, but the goal is to realize you are the astral self! It takes time but the trick is to go within and above. When you go within and above, you are seperating yourself from the surface chaos of the mind (the useless thoughts of animals, events, people) ! Slowly, when you learn not to get overwhelmed by the surface chaos, you learn that you are the astral self (no longer limited by the emotions, random thoughts etc)
There are other things that may help to speed up the process.The fastest way is with the guidance of someone who has mastered it!
Best wishes.
The problem with trying to focus or concentrate using imagination, name recital or mantra is that, you are still using your mind. Since, you are the astral projection, using the mind to focus on something achieves the result in a slow and indirect fashion. The fastest way, since your goal is to acheive astral body release from the body, is to realize that you are the astral body, realize that, your consciousness is not the mind or body but something more subtle, more divine, more powerful!
August 16th, 2007 at 11:34 am
I work in a high stress job and use secular forms of meditation practice to help me to alleviate stress and anxiety.
Meditation is simply learning to live in the moment, when nothing distracts you and when you are not tied to the past or anxious about the future. In meditation you become peacefully aware of your real self. The more you use it, the more aware you become. When you learn to live life for each moment, to enjoy and appreciate life to the fullest at that moment, you suddenly become impervious to the myraid of doubts and fears that you’ve lived with all your life.
While there are many folks that seem to believe their particular mantra has “magical power”, it really is the mindfulness that matters. The mantra is just one of the vehicles you can use to get there.
I developed a simple nonsectarian practice, but my background is in Buddhism - specifically Jodo Shinshu (aka Shin) Buddhism, Nichiren Buddhism, and the nonsectarian teachings of the Bright Dawn Institute (aka Kubose Dharma Legacy).
Here is the simple, yet potent, meditation technique that I use with some recommended resources as well. Specific posture does not matter. If you are uncomfortable sitting on the floor, you can sit on a chair with feet flat on the floor.
Since I have medical issues, I do a simple form of secular mindfulness meditation to relieve stress and anxiety. This helps to reduce high blood pressure and the frequency of headaches. It is a practice recommended by my primary licensed physician and is not encumbered by any superstitious nonsense.
I have actually studied a wide variety of religions and paths. Being more musically inclined, I was initially attracted to the practices of Jodo Shinshu (aka Shin Buddhism) and Nichiren Buddhism - with the combination of chanting a rhythmic phrase (Nembutsu or Odaimoku) and/or sutra recitation to a visual object (a scroll of Amida or a Gohonzon). This is a more active form of meditation as compared to the silent form (see below for that). So I decided to create a nonsectarian alternative in that vein. One practice that I find helpful in the vein of the Way of Oneness (the realization of interdependence) is to chant